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Surname Saturday – TIMMINS (Part 2)

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This is a follow on post from What’s That Name which started the exploration of my own surname TIMMINS.  So far we have just considered the name as it is spelt now, ignoring the alternatives.  For this post I intend to continue down this path to see where in the UK that the name is most populous.  This area will be the most likely origin of the surname.
In the last post we determined that three Poor Law Unions in the West Midlands had the majority of the surname distribution, that is TIMMINS living in the district, not those born there.  Out of the 2414 occurrences of the name 1580 (66%) are in the counties of Staffordshire, Worcestershire and Warwickshire; and of these 1136 (47%) lie in the Poor Law Unions of Dudley, West Bromwich and Stourbridge.  The largest cluster of 569 (24%) being in Dudley.
To find the birth parishes we must first find the names of the locations that people would have given the Enumerators.  I covered some of this in a recent blog post British Settlements and the Census.
Using the book The Phillimore Atlas and Index of Parish Registers  by Cecil R. Humphery-Smith I drew a map showing the parishes that make up the Poor Law Union boundaries:
The definitive web page for understanding the parishes within registration districts in the UK and Ireland is on the GENUKI web site, so from here lets get the list of parishes and townships that go to make up the districts.
(For anyone researching from outside the UK, the GENUKI web site is a great place to start)
Using the Find My Past web site I entered the place names one by one in the “Birth place:” field, with TIMMINS in the “Last name:” field (“Include variants” un-ticked), all other fields blank.

Stourbridge Registration District or Poor Law Union is made up of the following places (parishes & townships) in 1881:
There are 188 TIMMINS’ resident in the district and 164 born here.
Number in brackets after place is number born here.
Amblecote [1]
Brierley Hill [23]
Cakemore [0]
Cradley [4]
Halesowen [30]
Hasbury [0]
Hawne [0]
Hill [0]
Illey [0]
Kingswinford [29]
Lapal [0]
Lutley [0]
Lye [2]
Oldswinford [3]
Quarry Bank [1]
Ridgacre [0]
Stourbridge [71]
Upper Swinford [0]
Wollaston [0]
Wollescote [0]

Dudley Registration District or Poor Law Union is made of the following places (parishes & townships) in 1881:

There are 568 TIMMINS’ resident in the district and 564 born here.
Number in brackets after place is number born here.
Dudley [268]
Dudley Castle Hill [0]
Rowley Regis [26]
Sedgley [157]
Tipton [113]

West Bromwich Registration District or Poor Law Union is made of the following places (parishes & townships) in 1881:
There are 379 TIMMINS’ resident in the district with 226 born here.
Number in brackets after place is number born here.
Handsworth [0]
Oldbury [40]
Warley-Salop [0]
Warley-Wighorn [0]
Wednesbury [47]
West Bromwich [139]
So what can we determine from this exercise?
  • The parish of Dudley has by far the largest populous of the TIMMINS surname and is so far the best area to look deeper.  
  • The next thing to do is to look into the parish records for the churches in the Dudley area.  So come the New Year I need to see where this takes me.  
  • In the mean time I will look at the old IGI web site to see if I can gleam any more detail from an LDS 1881 record search.

What’s That Name – Timmins Surname (Part 1)

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For Surname Saturday I thought it was time to start investigating my surname.   I originally thought it would be easy to research my TIMMINS name – but how wrong can you be?
Firstly there are a large number of books and on-line articles speculating on the origin of the TIMMINS surname and the location it evolved from.  Not surprisingly they don’t all agree!  There are also the variant spellings of TIMMONS and TIMMS (and others).  I think we will put this to one side for now, I can follow this up in a later blog.
Let us try to look at some concrete information on where the surname may have come from, the 1881 census of England and Wales  looks like a good place to start – or is it?    Doing an exact name search on FindMyPast produced 2,335 matches.  The same search on Ancestry gave 2,391 whilst on FamilySearch I got 2,337 matches.  I chose the 1881 census as I presumed that all the transcriptions would be identical as the data used has been provided by the fabulous guys at the LDS.
Ancestry actually gave a little more information as it also looks at the Scottish census – this added a further 62 Timmins’ to the mix (Ancestry total 2453).
  
You would think that computer databases these days could come up with precisely the same answer to a simple query.  Perhaps someone out there in blogger land can explain the differences.
To find the origin of a surname you really have to understand where a person was born rather than where they lived when the census was taken.  Another factor is that you need to look at the older people in the census as this this will give a view of what was happening to the population prior to the mass migration caused by the Industrial Revolution.  This is now starting to look too complicated a search for the likes of the usual suspects i.e. FindMyPast, Ancestry and FamilySearch.
 
So come to the rescue rootsmap.com .  This is an on-line paid for service that provides a map and data matching the criteria I mentioned above.  So here we have it, with the added bonus of Scotland.
An advantage of the rootsmap.com web site is that it can also determine if there are any surname matches in Ireland; it uses the Griffith’s Valuation 1847 -1864 to achieve the results.  Unfortunately my TIMMINS surname is not currently in their database.
I have other options to find out any Ireland/Eire Timmins’:
FamilySearch – for Timmins born in Ireland between 1788 and 1860 there are 1031 matches.
Ancestry – for Timmins in the Griffiths Valuation gives 218 matches.
Ask About Ireland – the raw data for Timmins in Griffiths Valuation gives 263 matches; this search also includes the Landlord which skews the result, also it does not take into account one person renting more than one piece of land.
Irish Times – this gives a more precise figure of 121 matches, plus more valuable information on alternate names, also the households in each county and parish.
The Irish Times site is by far the best resource for searching any potential Irish surname connection.
So from the Irish Times:
The top 4 counties in Ireland for the Timmins surname are:
Carlow  37
Wicklow  21
Kildare  15
Cavan  10
Alternate surnames are:
Timmins 121
Timmons 67
Timmon 11
Timmin 4
Timmonds 1
Other alternative name given are: 
Timins, Timmans, Tymanns,  Ó Tiomáin (Wicklow), Mac Toimín (Mayo).
Leaving Ireland behind for a while I need to look at the more dense population of Timmins in the West Midlands (Staffordshire and Worcestershire) to see if I can narrow down the parishes they frequented.
I just happened to glance up at my CD genealogy collection and spotted a programme that I had forgotten about – Surname Atlas by Archer Software – I purchased it back in 2003, this is exactly what I need.  “The British 19th Century Surname Atlas is a fully interactive CD-Rom product that allows you to plot floodfill-style distribution maps for all of the surnames and forenames found in the 1881 census of England, Scotland and Wales.”
So I run the software and get 2,414 matches, not quite as many matches as Ancestry?  But here we have the Counties that I am interested in together with the data.
Next I want to display the results by Parish, it can’t achieve this but it can provide the Poor Law Union breakdown.
“Poor Law Unions were set up in England & Wales following the passing of the Poor Law amendment Act in 1834. The same areas were also used for civil registration and the collection of the 19th century census. They generally contain between 5 and 20 (civil) parishes. The system was less well developed in Scotland and the program only supports mapping by poor law union for England & Wales” 
The density of Timmins’ in the Dudley Poor Law Union would appear to indicate that the surname could have established itself here at an early stage.  More investigation into this will follow in further blogs.
Just as I thought that I had finished another thought popped into my head “Google British Surnames”.  Yet more information……………… rather than copy and paste it here I will let you click on the links and explore my surname further at these web sites.  In fact why not explore your own!
gbnames – the Great Britain Family Names Profiling website which presents the findings of a project based at University College London (UCL) that is investigating the distribution of surnames in Great Britain, both current and historic.
britishsurnames –  The British Surnames website. Here, you can find information on similar surnames, most common surnames, surname meanings and etymologies as well as discussing your name in the forum.  As the name suggests, this site primarily lists surnames commonly found in Britain, but many of these are found in other parts of the world as well – so even if you’re not British, your name could well be in here! 
americansurnames – See how the name has spread.
canadasurnames – There is also a town named Timmins in Ontario Canada – the following is courtesy of wikitravel, also see wikipedia
Timmins is a city in Northern Ontario with a population of nearly 43,000 (2006 census). The City stretches over approximately 2,961.52 km2 (1,840.20 sq mi) of land, making Timmins one of the largest cities in Canada land wise. Timmins was founded January 1, 1912 and is named after Noah Timmins, founder of the Hollinger Gold Mine. The gold rush of 1909 earned Timmins the nickname of the “City with the Heart of Gold”. The city is located in one of the richest mineral producing areas in the Western Hemisphere. It is a leader in the production of gold and base metals. Main attractions are mining tours, outdoor recreation and the Shania Twain Centre.
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