Surname Saturday – TIMMINS (Part 2)

This is a follow on post from What’s That Name which started the exploration of my own surname TIMMINS.  So far we have just considered the name as it is spelt now, ignoring the alternatives.  For this post I intend to continue down this path to see where in the UK that the name is most populous.  This area will be the most likely origin of the surname.
In the last post we determined that three Poor Law Unions in the West Midlands had the majority of the surname distribution, that is TIMMINS living in the district, not those born there.  Out of the 2414 occurrences of the name 1580 (66%) are in the counties of Staffordshire, Worcestershire and Warwickshire; and of these 1136 (47%) lie in the Poor Law Unions of Dudley, West Bromwich and Stourbridge.  The largest cluster of 569 (24%) being in Dudley.
To find the birth parishes we must first find the names of the locations that people would have given the Enumerators.  I covered some of this in a recent blog post British Settlements and the Census.
Using the book The Phillimore Atlas and Index of Parish Registers  by Cecil R. Humphery-Smith I drew a map showing the parishes that make up the Poor Law Union boundaries:
The definitive web page for understanding the parishes within registration districts in the UK and Ireland is on the GENUKI web site, so from here lets get the list of parishes and townships that go to make up the districts.
(For anyone researching from outside the UK, the GENUKI web site is a great place to start)
Using the Find My Past web site I entered the place names one by one in the “Birth place:” field, with TIMMINS in the “Last name:” field (“Include variants” un-ticked), all other fields blank.

Stourbridge Registration District or Poor Law Union is made up of the following places (parishes & townships) in 1881:
There are 188 TIMMINS’ resident in the district and 164 born here.
Number in brackets after place is number born here.
Amblecote [1]
Brierley Hill [23]
Cakemore [0]
Cradley [4]
Halesowen [30]
Hasbury [0]
Hawne [0]
Hill [0]
Illey [0]
Kingswinford [29]
Lapal [0]
Lutley [0]
Lye [2]
Oldswinford [3]
Quarry Bank [1]
Ridgacre [0]
Stourbridge [71]
Upper Swinford [0]
Wollaston [0]
Wollescote [0]

Dudley Registration District or Poor Law Union is made of the following places (parishes & townships) in 1881:

There are 568 TIMMINS’ resident in the district and 564 born here.
Number in brackets after place is number born here.
Dudley [268]
Dudley Castle Hill [0]
Rowley Regis [26]
Sedgley [157]
Tipton [113]

West Bromwich Registration District or Poor Law Union is made of the following places (parishes & townships) in 1881:
There are 379 TIMMINS’ resident in the district with 226 born here.
Number in brackets after place is number born here.
Handsworth [0]
Oldbury [40]
Warley-Salop [0]
Warley-Wighorn [0]
Wednesbury [47]
West Bromwich [139]
So what can we determine from this exercise?
  • The parish of Dudley has by far the largest populous of the TIMMINS surname and is so far the best area to look deeper.  
  • The next thing to do is to look into the parish records for the churches in the Dudley area.  So come the New Year I need to see where this takes me.  
  • In the mean time I will look at the old IGI web site to see if I can gleam any more detail from an LDS 1881 record search.
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Tombstone Tuesday – Primary Source vs Online Database

A Grave from the HAYES of Chester in my Family Tree
I found this headstone early on in my family history research, it was a great find as it opened lots of other doors and enabled me to discover much more information about my HAYES line. The data which led me to the headstone was on a microfilm held by the now defunct Chester Record Office (now part of the Cheshire Record Office).  I spent hours perusing these microfilm records extracting likely candidates for matches to my then small family tree.  Now a days you can easily search the Overleigh Cemetry records on-line!  The details of the 5!! people interned in this particular grave can be found HERE.
Old Cemetry No2, Overleigh Road, Chester.  Grave Number : R8000
The MMI (Monumental Inscription) for this headstone indicates that there are in fact 6 people buried in this grave and NOT 5 as suggested by the on-line database.
ALWAYS check the Primary Source!
The sixth person details are on the reverse side of the headstone.  ALWAYS check the back of a headstone.
There was also a small memorial stone hidden behind the main headstone, this gave some more valuable information on another HAYES ancestor.
The sixth person does in fact appear in the online database but is recorded as being interned in grave number 8000 (the R is missing).

Below is the information that I recorded from the original microfilm.  As you can see there is information here that has not made it to the online data, that is, the name of purchaser and the date they purchased it.

ALWAYS check the Secondary source.  You never know what goodies lurk in the old microfilmed resources.
Just to finish off this post here is the full MMI.
In Affectionate Rememberance of
Rebecca Hayes
Who died February 5 1892
Aged 74 years
And now Lord what is my hope
Truly my hope is thee

Also Elizabeth
The beloved wife of Walter Brown
Born March 14th 1861
Died April 29th 1896
Gone to be with Christ which is for better

Also Hannah the

[Paternal 2nd Great Grandmother]
Beloved wife of William Hayes
Who died July 18th 1904
Aged 77 years
Peace be with this place

Also Jane  

[Paternal Great Grandmother]
Wife of Edward Hayes
Died Sept 27 1915 Aged 59 years

Also Edward  

[Paternal Great Grandfather]
Husband of the above
Died Sept 7 1926 Aged 70 years

(on rear of headstone)
Also
William Hayes
Died January 23rd 1929
Aged 71 years

(Memorial behind headstone)
In memory
Of
Thomas
Son of
Edward & Jane Hayes
Who died of wounds
In the Great War
Aged 25 years
Buried in Boulogne

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